sv nerfed it to death you must mine yourself while in guild, than you get depending on the contract of the miner a little more. so if you wanna mine in the upkeep you have to nearly mine everyday atleast once xD
in early times it was perfekt the shit mined itself removed the grindy shit task and people fought ove rminning spots but sv nerfed it and people got pvp bored and startet sieging randoms without reasons.
yeash thats true if you have the time to login and grind the shit.
if you have work and not much time than you wanna lay and not grind 24/7 sure grind is okay but its a little to much grind i liked the afk mine collector mines better, have better outcome for people that empty them before work, after wörk and before going to bed, for 3min investet time to ge tthe rocks you know what i mean.